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    January 23

    Category:Mass murderers

    I was going to post at Category talk:Mass murderers, but there was a note recommending I post here instead. The Category:Mass murderers doesn't seem to have a clear inclusion criteria. Is it all individuals who have killed 3 or more people without a cooling off period? Do they need to have been convicted in court for murder? Is it mainly for mass shooting/mass stabbing, or do bombings count? Do they need to have committed the act themselves, or can they be included if they ordered or masterminded the killings? VR (Please ping on reply) 04:39, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    @Vice regent: I guess it's all of them though I'm not sure. Gnu779 ( talk) 12:45, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Gnu779 what is the best place to have this discussion? VR (Please ping on reply) 12:59, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, @Vice regent. The talk page of one of the WikiProjects linked on that Category talk page: probably WT:Crime and Criminal Biography, I would have thought. ColinFine (talk) 13:52, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks VR (Please ping on reply) 13:55, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    no problem btw. Gnu779 ( talk) 12:45, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    what

    What if blocked IPs edit with a proxy? Is it okay if they only do good edits? Gnu779 ( talk) 12:43, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    @Gnu779 Does Wikipedia:Open proxies answer your question? Shantavira|feed me 13:13, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Gnu779, block evasion by any technique is not permitted. It is the human being who is blocked, and blocking their most recent IP address is just the enforcement mechanism. Cullen328 (talk) 17:40, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, so all their identities are blocked? Gnu779 ( talk) 12:44, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Creating a talk page for Sicilian business

    Hey, y'all. I created the article Sicilian business a few months ago and I've been meaning to take it through PR. Can someone help me create a talk page and sort it under its appropriate WikiProjects so I can get this process started? I've brought several articles to PR before, but I've never had the issue of there not being a talk page! Thanks. Unlimitedlead (talk) 17:24, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Surprisingly easy: Have a look at this guide for information on how to do so. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 17:27, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, 2601AC47. Simply click on the red link Talk: Sicilian business and follow the instructions to create the tak page. Cullen328 (talk) 17:31, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    You meant Unlimitedlead? I didn't create that one. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 17:34, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry for pinging the wrong editor. Cullen328 (talk) 17:43, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Okay... I think I set it up correctly. Thanks for the assist! Unlimitedlead (talk) 17:31, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, you just created the page. Cullen328 (talk) 17:32, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Amending existing edit request or making an additional one?

    If I have a pending edit request on an extended-confirmed-protected page, and I have an additional edit to request, should I edit the talk page to add it to the existing edit request, or initiate a new edit request? Kenfree (talk) 20:56, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    If the new edit request is unrelated to the initial one I might make it a second request to avoid mixed responses (Yes to the first, No to the second). If it's related and nobody's responded to the initial request yet, I'd likely amend it. Hope this helps! DonIago (talk) 21:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    If you do edit your initial request, you should probably note that somewhere to avoid confusion from anyone who may have read the initial request. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 22:08, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Kenfree, from the pragmatic point of view, it is pretty clear to me, based on over 15 years of experience, that a simple, concise, well-referenced edit request has a far better chance of being implemented by a volunteer editor than an edit request that has been modified, expanded and now deals with several issues instead of one. Almost any interested volunteer prefers to deal with such requests in "bite sized chunks". Cullen328 (talk) 06:28, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    thanks Kenfree (talk) 09:36, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Issue With "Edits" Page Following A Limitation and Uninstallment of Wikipedia

    Dear Wikipedia Support,

    I hope this message finds you well. I am reaching out to seek assistance regarding an issue with my Wikipedia account, Brennan2013.

    The issue began after my edits to the articles Jonathan the Tortoise and other elderly tortoises were reverted by another user. Soon after, I noticed that my contributions page became restricted, displaying the message:

    "Suggested edits is disabled. Sorry Brennan2013, too many of your recent contributions have been reverted."

    For context:

    • I initially downloaded and installed the Wikipedia mobile app through the Google Play Store in late December 2024. Since then, I’ve primarily used my Android Onn. Tablet to read and edit articles on Wikipedia.
    • After encountering this restriction, I uninstalled the app in frustration.
    • Today (Thursday, January 23, 2025), I reinstalled the app through the Google Play Store and logged into my account, only to find that the issue persists.

    Editing Wikipedia has always been an enjoyable and educational experience for me. I strive to make meaningful contributions and was disappointed to see that my access to the contributions page and suggested edits remains restricted. I am unsure whether this limitation is still active due to the reverted edits or if uninstalling and reinstalling the app has affected my account.

    Could you please provide more information about the current status of my account? Is the restriction temporary, or do additional steps need to be taken to restore full access?

    Either way, I will continue to enjoy reading and editing on Wikipedia, as it remains one of my favorite platforms. Thank you for the incredible resource that Wikipedia provides and for all the work you do to maintain it.

    I greatly appreciate your time and support, and I look forward to your response.

    Sincerely,

    Brennan2013 Brennan2013 (talk) 23:37, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    @Brennan2013:, suggested edits is part of Wikipedia:Growth Team features. If you don't get a detailed answer here, you could ask at the talk page there. A couple of sentences quoting the message you got should be sufficient, I don't think deinstalling the app is relevant.
    It is a well known issue that new users often don't know much about how Wikipedia works, so they often make mistakes when they start editing. TSventon (talk) 01:10, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Brennan2013, we expect new users to make mistakes but we also expect new users to learn from those mistakes. Since editors get a notification whenever an edit is reverted, you can look at what happened and not continue to do the same thing. I notice you are using the Android app to edit. There are some limitations to the interface if you edit with an app rather than with a browser. Did you get a notification every time one of your edits was reverted? That may be the problem. StarryGrandma (talk) 04:19, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Brennan2013, I have made close to 100,000 edits to Wikipedia on Android smartphones going back many years. Other than occasionally for test purposes, I never use any Wikipedia app or the Wikipedia mobile site or the visual editor. That is because I prefer a fully functional editing interface. So, I use the good old fashioned "desktop" site which works perfectly on 2025 Android phones despite its overly narrow name, and I avoid the visual editor and work in Wikicode, which is very easy to learn. Just take a look at WP:CHEATSHEET which shows how much useful formatting anyone can do without a college level course and with ten or fifteen minutes of reading. Cullen328 (talk) 06:47, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Brennan2013 A quick look at Jonathan the Tortoise, as an example, shows that you removed a perfectly good age template but marked the edit as "Fixed grammar", and you later added unsourced information to the article. All substantive information in any article should be based on a reliable source. Shantavira|feed me 09:58, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    January 24

    article

    I have finished an article in my sandbox about a general but the name he most commonly goes by is already an disambiguation article. Can I change the name of the disambiguation article and make a new one about the general? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TedKekmeister (talkcontribs) 18:19, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Only if you can convincingly argue that your general is the WP:DAB#Primary topic for the name. Otherwise you should create a disambiguated name (eg "Zahid (Syrian general)") and add the article to the DAB page.
    I note that all but one of your citations are to Twitter. Social media is not usually regarded as reliable, so the draft does not at present establish notability. See WP:TWITTER ColinFine (talk) 18:51, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the help. The reason many of the links are from twitter is because that is where the sources are translated. I can also get some of the original sources but then they would be untranslated. TedKekmeister (talk) 19:54, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Sources does not have to be in English. You should cite the original sources directly, anyone who wish to verify them can use Google Translate to read the sources for themselves. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 23:51, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you as well for your help. The translating part is a bit hard due to the fact that the information comes from videos without subtitles. Nonetheless I changed the sources I could if I found the original publicised by the group themselves. TedKekmeister (talk) 18:52, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Indexing

    Hi,

    This page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2Rivers has been reviewed and is over 90 days old but is not appearing in google search results? Do you know why this is?

    I also wanted to flag that a duplicate page has also been created: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2Rivers_Group

    It looks like whoever made it has overwritten an existing page about a totally different subject. Trader989 (talk) 18:49, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, @Trader989. As far as I can see, 2Rivers has been reeased to allow search engines; but Wikipedia has no control over what Google or other search engines do, or when they index.
    2Rivers Group does indeed appear to be a duplicate. You're right that the content replaced something else, but it was the same editor, @Articute who created the article shortly before (and filled it with an out-of-context results table for something) and then replaced it with a version of the present content; so it has not been hijacked.
    I suggest the two of you work together to merge the two articles. ColinFine (talk) 19:01, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    I'd like to request assistance in determining the copyright status of the following image I'd like to use in articles about nativism in United States politics and anti-immigration sentiment. 1 The following newspaper lists "The City of New Haven" as contributing it, which makes me think it is possibly eligible for use as it is released by a governmental agency. As I am not versed in Wikipedia copyright law, I am requesting assistance from more experienced editors in this pursuit. BootsED (talk) 19:31, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    @BootsED: Wikipedia:Public domain#United States government works say that works produced by the federal government are public domain, but works produced by other levels of government may not be. If you have questions about media copyright the best place is Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. TSventon (talk) 19:45, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you! I will ask over there. BootsED (talk) 19:52, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    16 years here, never used scripts to edit. Can you please tell me what I can use to quickly change links from Joan, Duchess of Brittany to Joan of Penthièvre? The former can refer to six women and should be a disambiguation page, but currently redirects to Joan of Penthièvre. I would be very grateful! Surtsicna (talk) 19:44, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    @Surtsicna If you want to ask someone else to do it, WP:AWBTASKS is the place. If you want to do it yourself, read WP:AWB. Ultraodan (talk) 02:36, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Be sure to verify that each of the linking articles actually means that specific one of the six:) I've made that sort of mistake before. DMacks (talk) 08:39, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't know how to revert an article name change when the former title was created as a new redirect

    Hello, for the article Punjabi Suba movement, the article's name was changed to Punjabi province movement and the former title was made as a new redirect to the new title. After consensus was reached on the article's talkpage to return to the former name ([1]), I attempted to revert to the former name but cannot because the former title is now used as a redirect. How do I return the article to the former title correctly? Please advise. MaplesyrupSushi (talk) 19:52, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    You can request the move at WP:RM. ColinFine (talk) 20:58, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Adding an image to an article which has no particular copyright or author mentioned.

    Hi. I'm interested in adding the following image, [2], to Helene Spilling's English Wiki article. For a while, I've attempted to add any image of her to the article, but have had many obstacles in the process due to either having difficulty in obtaining permission or not knowing the licence they fall under. Recently, I've found the image mentioned above, from this website. However, they haven't listed any mention of copyright, or who the author of the image is. Naturally, it has made me wonder if perhaps this image is easier to use than the previous instances? Thanks in advance. 1ykke1il (talk) 20:14, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    With a modern image, if you cannot identify the copyright, you cannot use the image. Copyright status cannot be assumed. 331dot (talk) 20:17, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    331dot do you mean a modern image of a living person? Wikipedia has Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria but the No free equivalent clause means that we generally cannot use copyright images of living people as a free image could be produced in the future. TSventon (talk) 20:25, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I was trying to differentiate between antique images and modern images. But you are correct, of course. :) 331dot (talk) 20:43, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    1ykke1il, modern copyright law does not require a copyright notice or copyright registration. An image is copyrighted automatically the moment that it is published. In order to use such an image of a living person on Wikipedia, you must furnish written evidence that the image is either freely licensed in a way acceptable to Wikipedia, or is in the public domain. Our non-free content policy does not permit non-free images of living people. Cullen328 (talk) 21:49, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    To editor 1ykke1il: As Cullen328 stated, the presence or absence of any kind of copyright notice makes no difference in "today's world" (for the details see Berne Convention). I note that Helene Spilling appears married to Martin Ødegaard who is a "big-shot" pro athlete and likely has a personal publicist and/or talent agent. If you wish you could try to contact one of the those persons and request that they release (or convey the request to someone who can) an image of Spilling, or the two of them together, under a free license: consult Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission for details. --Slowking Man (talk) 00:25, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Citation template usable for books with location but missing publisher

    I'm trying to tidy up this bibliography. As a first step, I want to convert the entries to use a suitable CS2 template rather than plain text, into which missing details can later be inserted.

    As you can see, most entries include a location but no publisher. If I try to use {{cite}} or {{citation}}, I get an error message like location no publisher. This happens whether I leave the |publisher= parameter empty or omit it altogether.

    Is there a template I can use that will accept this combination? It needs also to accept the |trans-title= parameter, so I can add translations of the titles.

    Alternatively, is there a way to suppress the errors?

    Musiconeologist (talk) 22:12, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Remember that WP:CITEVAR applies. You should not be converting non-templated citation style to templated style without you first obtain consensus to do so at the article's talk page.
    {{citation}} and {{cite}} are exactly the same thing; {{cite}} is merely a redirect to {{citation}}.
    Assuming that you can gain consensus, the CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link) message is not an error message. The parenthetical 'link' at the end of the message will take you to the appropriate category page where there is some discussion about what caused cs1|2 to emit the message.
    Trappist the monk (talk) 01:27, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    All I've managed to get at the talk page so far when I've posted about the bibliography is three weeks of complete silence, and I'm the only person apart from a bot who's ever posted there, so it'll be interesting to see how that goes. I suspect I'll be trying to get consensus from zero people. The section seems to have been pasted untranslated from the Norwegian article (comments about the entries still in Norwegian, side and band for page and volume, etc.). I think whoever translated the article itself either forgot about the bibliography, or decided they didn't fancy formatting references on another language's Wikipedia. What I found was an English article with an entirely Norwegian section in it.
    It's certainly less work to keep them as plain text, though.
    Thanks for clarifying about the template message—I hadn't realised it's invisible to the reader. That's useful to know, whether or not I end up using the template. It looks as though |Publisher=none is probably what I need if I do.
    BTW the documentation for the two templates seemed to say that one defaults to CS1 and the other to CS2, hence my trying both. Musiconeologist (talk) 02:52, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Follow the {{cite}} link and you end up at {{citation}}; two names for one template.
    the documentation for the two templates seemed to say that one defaults to CS1 and the other to CS2 What documentation? Where?
    Trappist the monk (talk) 03:50, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    At this point I'm not sure—I tried a variety of wp: and help: and template: searches while I was experimenting with the format then trying to find what the problem was. It was on a page that came up in one of the searches, and that my browser history and app history aren't helping me track down now. Sorry that's not much help. I can try to let you know if I find it again, though. Musiconeologist (talk) 04:37, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Setting styles for entire rows and columns in a table?

    February 11, 7pm Maryland Charm v New York Charging
    February 12, 9pm Boston Guard v California Palms
    February 13, 9pm Maryland Charm v Boston Guard

    I'm wondering if there's a more efficient way to display a light grey bottom border for each row in this table, without having to specify "border-bottom: 1px solid lightgrey" for every single cell in the table. Similarly, I'd also like to align text for the three columns on the right without having to specify a text-align for every single cell in those columns, if that's possible. — AFC Vixen 🦊 23:09, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    @AFC Vixen: {{Table alignment}} can make the alignment by starting with:
    {{Table alignment}}
    {| class="col2right col3center col4left"
    
    Tables with repetitive code are sometimes made with a Help:Table#Row template. The repeated code will still be in the template-expanded wikitext and HTML but editors don't see it. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:52, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your advice! — AFC Vixen 🦊 01:11, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    January 25

    Deactivated account error - I'm still here!

    Why am I suddenly being told my page doesn't exist? It's EXISTED for MANY YEARS! Of course, I do NOT know whatinthebloody hell this is all about. I would think, considering that I have donated in the past, that my account would NOT be arbitrarily deactivated with no clear explanation (donations were under my name, John Hjort). Bilsebub (talk) 04:36, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    @Bilsebub can you be more specific about which page you are talking about? It looks like you’ve had that account since 2011 and first edited in 2012 and during that time have edited multiple pages but only created one page which was your user page which has alway been blank. There is no history indicating that it was deleted. Perhaps you have also used another account beside this one? But generally as long as you were not a disruptive user who has blocked, it is very unlikely anyone would delete your user page, and there is no indication that was ever done. TiggerJay(talk) 06:45, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The only thing that I can think of is that perhaps you never noticed that your user page was blank and just now noticed the warning, but your account itself is clearly still intact and working, and no indication of being deactivated. TiggerJay(talk) 06:47, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It's optional for users to create a user page. Your user account works fine without it. If an account doesn't exist like User:User986 then it displays a message at top which isn't shown when the account exists like User:User985. I see you created a blank user page User:Bilsebub after posting here. See Wikipedia:User pages for what you can use it for. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:00, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    You didn't accidentally mix up your user page here with your your talk page here, did you? That would be an easy mistake to make, especially if you've not been in the habit of visiting both and thinking of them as separate places. I accidentally go to the wrong one sometimes. Musiconeologist (talk) 10:04, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Bilsebub, you asked a a similar question back in 2017 and got a similar answer. The Wikimedia Foundation that accepts your monetary donations (thank you for them) has no way to connect your real world identity and financial institutions with your Wikipedia username as a content volunteer. If they could make that connection, it would be unethical. Content is completely separate from money. Elon Musk has repeatedly offered US $1 billion to influence our content and our answer is always NO. Cullen328 (talk) 10:09, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Error in signature

    I tried “Koshuri (グ)” but it says Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags, Can anyone fix it for me? Koshuri Sultan (talk) 11:31, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    "@Koshuri Sultan: You were missing a quotation mark after the second bold;. I fixed it above. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:54, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you!!! Koshuri (グ) 14:59, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Koshuri Sultan, I use Wikipedia with the dark mode gadget enabled, and your signature is nearly invisible on my device. I can barely make out the "Koshuri" (and even that only because it is bolded or semibolded), and whatever follows is totally invisible. Do you think you could do me and other dark mode readers a favour and recolour your sig to comply with MOS:CONTRAST? Folly Mox (talk) 18:19, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not that legible in whatever the opposite of dark mode is called either. So, yes please , check the requirements of MOS:CONTRAST. Bazza 7 (talk) 19:27, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Using the "sfn template" in citation work

    I'm working on the Saccidananda Ashoram article, and in the process discovered that all the previous citations were made with something called the sfn template {{sfn}}. I never heard of this method of doing citations before a couple of days ago. It seems that in order to add any new citations in this article, I'm going to have to follow suit and use the sfn template for them, rather than the normal way I'd do it in the Visual editor ...

    ... and I did try with the sfn template, but didn't succeed. Here's what happened. I used the template to add what should have become citation #4 because it came after three previous citations. But no, it became an alternative #1, not a repeated #1:

    [1][2][3][1]

    Interestingly, this misnumbering is exactly what happened when I tried to add a new citation the normal way in the Visual editor. What's going on?

    Augnablik (talk) 14:17, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    @Augnablik: as far as I can see, you didn't publish your edit. Can you confirm what code you added and where? TSventon (talk) 14:43, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Right, I didn't publish my new citation because I was worried that if it misnumbered — as I assumed it would— any readers who noticed would be confused. Now that I see @Koshuri Sultan's message just below, though, I will try that and see if the citation number does change after all. Augnablik (talk) 04:01, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Augnablik It could be because you're seeing it from the visual mode, Try publishing the edit and check citation number after publishing the edit. Koshuri (グ) 17:29, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Okay, will do as soon as I reply to @Musiconeologist's reply just below. Augnablik (talk) 04:02, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    From a quick look at the article, I can see three instances of [1], and they all refer to page 31 of the same book—which to me seems seems correct for this footnote method. They cite the same thing and have the same number. Were you trying to cite something else? Musiconeologist (talk) 17:51, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, I was trying to cite something else — that's what I was trying to say in my original message but perhaps wasn't successful in doing. Augnablik (talk) 04:03, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    At the risk of stating the obvious, Help:Shortened footnotes is the documentation. If you add a shortened citation with the same content of an existing one, they will be numbered identically, like reusing a named reference. Folly Mox (talk) 18:15, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    But I was trying to add a new citation. However, I didn't publish it, as @TSventon noticed, and for the reason I noted in replying to him. Now, as soon as I finish my about-to-be-delivered meal, I will try publishing the new citation and see what happens. Augnablik (talk) 04:05, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Okay, @TSventon, @Koshuri Sultan, @Musiconeologist, and @Folly Mox, here's an update. I successfully used the sfn template — in the Visual editor, I might add, because for awhile I thought I'd have to use the Source editor, which I dread — and created a new citation that correctly published as [7]. But during my editing, it looked just as it had in my original post to this thread: [1]. That's why I had assumed there was a problem. What else would a novice editor assume, unless aware of this anomaly?
    — From my experience just now trying to use sfn, I could see one major drawback with it: I'd planned to use a different citation source that had no individual author, just a website, but sfn seems to require having one. So I chose a different citation than I was going to use, just so I could see if the numbering changed when I published. I wonder what to do about adding websites with sfn. At any rate, my newly added citation with sfnoccurs at the end of paragraph 2. The complete publishing information that needs to go in the Reference List is this: Oldmeadow, Harry (2004). "Jules Monchanin, Henri Le Saux/Abhishiktananda and the Hindu-Christian Encounter." Australian Religion Studies Review, 17:2.
    — Then too, a reference list seems not to be automatically created when using sfn, as I was expecting from my previous experience adding citations in Visual the usual way. I figured out that to I'd have to edit the article's existing one — manually — by using a template called reflist. It seemed a rather klutzy way to do it, but I started out, moving down the list to where my new citation should have gone, but I couldn't get a new form (new form, that is, within the reflist template) to appear. If I had tried to add the new one, I'd have overwritten the reference that was already there.

    I'm tempted to agree with whoever wrote the Citation templates are evil essay, but I'll hold off for awhile to hear words of wisdom otherwise from the four of you who've responded to my original plea for help, or others who'd like to jump in. Augnablik (talk) 05:45, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Page on enwiki: Content from Wikimedia

    I would like my user page on enwiki to display the content of mw:User:Matutinho. I have deleted the content on my user page on enwiki. How do I do this? Thanks for help. Matutinho (talk) 18:17, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Matutinho, you need to delete the page rather than blanking it. Add {{Db-author}} and an admin should do a speedy deletion for you under WP:G7.— Preceding unsigned comment added by TSventon (talkcontribs)
    I've taken the liberty of going ahead with the deletion. -- zzuuzz (talk) 20:01, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Extremely tremendously not important: {{u1}} is more "fitting" for one's own userspace—more usefully, also easier to remember. Speaking of easier, for tagging of pages like this you may wish to give Twinkle a spin. --Slowking Man (talk) 00:09, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Would you check configuration of MiszaBot?

    Would one of you smart people see if MiszaBot configuration looks correct on Talk:Led Zeppelin?

    My edit description explains the issue: "add back archive bot ... hoping this is not a mistake, but this talk page has not been archived in 5 years or so and has over 20 topics; I found the previous archive bot configuration from 2019 but it looked very complicated - maybe that's why it was deleted? ... fingers crossed"

    This is what I added to the talk page:

    {{User:MiszaBot/config | algo = old(60d) | archive = Talk:Led Zeppelin/Archive %(counter)d | counter = 9 | maxarchivesize = 150K | archiveheader = {{Automatic archive navigator}} | minthreadstoarchive = 1 | minthreadsleft = 4 }}

    Please correct if I made an error or I am happy to do it.

    Thank you! -- Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) [he/him] 20:14, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Looks good to me @Markworthen Ultraodan (talk) 23:04, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you! -- Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) [he/him] 03:03, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Accessing the Digital Oxford Dictionary of National Biography

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    There's no such thing as an artist profile in Wikipedia, only encyclopedic articles about notable artists, which the page you linked to can not be classified as. Please delete the contents in your user page, otherwise it will be tagged for deletion. Consider taking some time to read WP:NOT and WP:GNG before creating any article in Wikipedia, including your own user page. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 02:49, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]